The sad state of emerald for compiz & its possible demise
As some of you may know, emerald is a very nice themer for compiz. However, recently a major patch was applied known as the “nomad” patch. The patch was applied on Tuesday Sept 16th and has ripped havoc for people who use Emerald.
So you’d imagine someone just needs to fix emerald. However, emerald is no longer maintained which means, unless someone really steps up it’ll just be a memory.
So what are the choices for openSUSE 11.1?
Remove compiz-emerald to keep the number of bug reports down
Find someone to maintain emerald (alot harder then just removing it)
Applying a home built hack patch to keep in 11.1 and gracefully remove from 11.2 with correct notification to the community.
Revert back to compiz pre-nomad patch (not sure about the regressoins of this).
I personally have reverted back to the “pre-nomad” version of 0.7.8 (you can modify the spec file, and just remove the patch2) .. and am keeping emerald (as I like having control of the size of my taskbar etc.. since I think all the KDE Decorations waste tons of desktop space.
Edit: Does anyone know the version of Compiz / Compiz Emerald on Ubuntu 8.10 and if it works? If it does, why can’t the patch there be used for openSUSE emerald? If they opted “not” to use the NOMAD patch, why do we “have” to? < Dunno why I just thought of that.
7 Comments to The sad state of emerald for compiz & its possible demise
I’m using emerald on Ubuntu 8.10 and it appears to work just fine. I haven’t had any issues with it, at any rate. If it’s not going to be maintained, I’d sure like to see the themes moved/ported/downlodable to the integrated compiz features in the ubuntu gnome desktop.
ben.kevanNovember 11, 2008
Jayhawk..
The version of Compiz on Ubuntu 8.10 does not include the nomad patch.. which I later found out.
Which makes me question why the openSUSE guys are forcing the NOMAD patch even before it’s applied upstream in the 0.7.8 branch ( I don’t believe nomad has been applied upstream ).. Seems like a bad step.. could potentially hard many ..
Since the choices are:
Ship broken Compiz / Emerald Combo
Don’t ship Emerald (very negitive without notification, since many people do use it).
mikeNovember 11, 2008
Quite sad news. I am an xfce user so I am not able to use xfce window decoration with compiz-fusion (is it actually possible?) so my only choice is to use emerald themes.
ben.kevanNovember 11, 2008
Mike.. That’s quite a good point. If XFCE Windows Decorations do not work.. and your only choice are emerald themes there is a great possibility that they will not work for you (or may not exist in 11.1 or later versions.. that’s in discussion (removal is)).
RobinNovember 12, 2008
btw, what’s this NOMAD patch?
I cannot find any information about it…
RobinNovember 12, 2008
strange… I searched google again and found all the information.
http://derstandard.at/?url=/?id=1225358964990
http://en.opensuse.org/Nomad
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